"'The Draize Train' is vivisection terminology, a kind of conveyor belt, you can guess the rest. I've been Vegetarian since 1983. "
"I use Nashville tuning all the time. I've got an Epiphone Coronet with one pickup, and I string it with the high strings from a 12-string set. It's a really zingy, trebly guitar. I used that on a lot of things that people think are 12-string, like the end of 'The Headmaster Ritual'. I also used it on the studio version of 'The Draize Train', along with two Rickenbackers. I was working with Alan Rogan, the famed English guitar technician. He said, 'Well, if you want a Pete Townshend sound, I'll bring down two of Pete's guitars.' I don't know whether Pete knows about that!"
- Johnny Marr
I have put up a tab contributed by David K, a reader, here(click to view, right-click to save as).
Here are the scans from the Complete Chord Dictionary:
Lexicon15 does a cool version on acoustic:
lunachangue did a great electric version from the Rank album:
"The song, as it was, just faded in, so i thought we had to do something a bit more interesting. Basically, I put all the reverb on the drums up so it sounded like it was coming in from some large hall, then faded it down really quickly. Then I took all the reverb back off and faded it up again. The effect was supposed to be like the musics in a hall somewhere, it goes away, then it comes back and it's nice and clean and dry. A bit like opening a door, closing it, then opening it again and walking in."
-Stephen Street
"Other times, I'd drop off a cassette of some music at Morrissey's house. He lived about two miles away, and I'd ride round there on my Yamaha DT 175 and post them through his letterbox. 'Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others' was done that way. All the music for that came in one wave while I was watching telly with the sound down."
"Some things just drop out of the heavens, and 'Some Girls...' was one of them. It's a beautiful piece of music."
"I think I used a Rickenbacker 330 with delay on and a Strat for the outro. A lot of chorus and delay, I think."
- Johnny Marr
This one has a lot of renditions on youtube, which is great. It's a challenging part, but it's something that once you hear, you want to learn... at least I feel that way. A lot of people have taken it on, so I have posted as many good versions as I could find
Also, there are 2 Guitar Pro tab files I uploaded here(right click to save). One is for the live version, but it's not complete.
Daniel Cárdenas informed me that the Guitar Pro version posted here was in a weird tuning(second string was tuned up 1/2 step) and was in the wrong key. He transcribed the song into the correct key, and I transposed the fretboard positions into something that I think is more accurate. I moved the figures down one fret, which eliminates 1st fret barre chords and utilizes more open strings and open chord positions. I have left the older version in the rar file for comparison purposes. If you can help improve it further, let me know.
Here is a scan from Guitare Xtreme, a French magazine:
Thanks to reader Dupont Dupond for the scan.
Here are the scans from the Complete Chord Dictionary:
Here are the scans from the Queen Is Dead piano songbook with guitar chord boxes:
Daniel Earwicker's first attempt:
His second attempt, this time a fairly definitive cover of the 'live' version:
tomscotland on a strat:
goleirinho, whose version is the first left-handed video I have posted!
elvismarinho's cover:
and here's Stevebanany:
smitestyle is next:
sonofdrcross again does both guitar and bass really well:
Here's buckleyboyben:
Here's another version by barjabulon:
Here's Salvia02390 with his take on the live version:
Here's two spot on guitar and bass covers by johnnymare:
Here's a great bass cover by my friend John Biscuiti:
And lastly, here's The Smiths at their final show. Johnny plays it, um, like a ringin' a bell. Just totally effortless and smooth, it's
"Me and Johnny were sat in the library playing acoustic guitars and they must have been miked up as we were probably putting down the acoustic tracks for 'Panic'. I just started playing the chord sequence which would later become 'Ask' in exactly the way it appears on the record. Johnny then joined in playing the same... I then forgot about the idea and left it at that... Johnny must have played Morrissey this idea or given him the recording I already mentioned. I was completely surprised as we were now recording this for the next single. The only section of the chord structure that I didn't come up with for 'Ask' was the middle eight section with the chords E-minor, D and C. That was actually what Johnny came up with. All the way through the song there is an overdub with me and Johnny sat around a mike with acoustics, playing a riff that he came up with towards the end of the recording of the song. That is a great riff and a real hook but it was still just an overdub and I felt the song was nearly complete without it. Up until the release of 'Ask' I still thought I'd be given a writing credit. When I found that I wasn't given a writing credit, it didn't really bother me, but I thought it was pretty bad that no one even acknowledged that it was my idea in the first place."
- Craig Gannon
"That really hurt me. That's one of the things in The Smiths that you don't do. We were always very careful from the very first day all the way through the sessions to bring in our own songs. It was ridiculous. no one ever had any inclination to write any songs, and that was fine."
"On 'Ask', Craig Gannon and I are playing Martin acoustics. I play the G-Am-C-D progression on a Rickenbacker 330. The highlify part is played on a '63 Strat. I'm also vamping on a G harmonica through a Urei Boom Box, an early '70s piece of outboard gear that we also used a lot on guitars, as well. It's like one of those vulgar 'loudness' buttons on a hi-fi. It pushes things slightly out of phase, but gives them a bottomy, dense sound. It's a big chrome box with one knob: 'intensity.'"
- Johnny Marr
I have uploaded a Guitar Pro tab for this song here. Right click to save as.
Here's the complete band score from the "Louder Than Bombs:Off The Record" book:
Here is another tab, from the Singles book:
Here are the scans from the Smiths Best Complete Score:
Here's a great version by nicknoh69 on a Les Paul:
Jahnli does a nice version here, with vocals.
fdealencar has a nice attempt at all the riffs here:
Here Daniel Earwicker does an amazing 3-track breakdown:
I created this blog to showcase the guitar work of Johnny Marr from the Smiths, and to help those who want to learn his guitar parts or learn more about his gear and production techniques.
I will cover the catalog song by song, using youtube videos from guitarists, chords, tab, and comments from Johnny when they are available. Many of the songs feature many different guitar tracks; often one person will capture something that another will not, so I will be posting everything that I feel helps with the understanding of the overall song, or any part of it. If anyone has anything to contribute, please email me at thom@smithsonguitar.com